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	<title>Comments for FresnoZionism.org -- ציונות פרסנו</title>
	<link>http://fresnozionism.org</link>
	<description>A pro-Israel voice from California's Central Valley</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Arab Thinking 101 by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/992#comment-6244</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/992#comment-6244</guid>
		<description>The implication and lesson of this is clear. There must be a dramatic shift in values, in Islamic and Arab culture if there is to be any hope of lasting Peace in the Middle East. But such a shift is not now taking place. In fact the motion is in the opposite direction towards the most backward and anti- human elements in the Tradition. 
The question which might be asked, and I have no idea of what the answer is, is how such a change might be promoted and developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The implication and lesson of this is clear. There must be a dramatic shift in values, in Islamic and Arab culture if there is to be any hope of lasting Peace in the Middle East. But such a shift is not now taking place. In fact the motion is in the opposite direction towards the most backward and anti- human elements in the Tradition.<br />
The question which might be asked, and I have no idea of what the answer is, is how such a change might be promoted and developed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on J Street poll dishonest, misleading and flawed by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/990#comment-6242</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/990#comment-6242</guid>
		<description>The question is idiotic from the outset. Anyone minimally acquainted with Mid-East realities understands that if Israel loses its capacity to defend itself( military security) it will lose it all. There is absolutely no alternative to this. Framing a question in which something else is made an alternative simply shows a fundamental lack of comprehension of the Israeli reality. 
'J-Street' should worry a bit more about defending the American Jewish community from self- destruction by assimilation and leave Israel and Israelis alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is idiotic from the outset. Anyone minimally acquainted with Mid-East realities understands that if Israel loses its capacity to defend itself( military security) it will lose it all. There is absolutely no alternative to this. Framing a question in which something else is made an alternative simply shows a fundamental lack of comprehension of the Israeli reality.<br />
&#8216;J-Street&#8217; should worry a bit more about defending the American Jewish community from self- destruction by assimilation and leave Israel and Israelis alone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gordon Brown sympathetic to dead Jews, less so to live ones by Vic Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/989#comment-6241</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/989#comment-6241</guid>
		<description>Here is a statement of his position from the Jerusalem Post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Brown expressed fierce solidarity with Israel in its struggle to survive, outraged rejection for "those who question Israel's right to exist," abhorrence at the Iranian president's calls "for Israel to be wiped off the map" and a robust "determination to prevent an Iranian nuclear weapons program." Indeed, he upped the ante on Iran, declaring that the British now stood &lt;strong&gt;"ready to lead in taking further sanctions and ask the whole international community to join us."
&lt;/strong&gt;
If Iran did not suspend its nuclear program, he warned, it would face "growing isolation and the collective response not of one nation but of many nations."

At the same time, this leader of a Britain that, he said, "shares an unbreakable partnership" with Israel, "based on shared values of liberty, democracy and justice," set out familiar, if emphatically non-generous, positions on final-status issues. Insisting that "peace is within your grasp," he spoke of an Israeli-Palestinian accommodation built, among other fundamentals, upon&lt;strong&gt; "a two-state solution based on 1967 borders," with "Jerusalem the capital for both," a "just and agreed settlement for refugees" and Israel "freezing and withdrawing from settlements."&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, I suppose he is a better friend then Bashar Assad, but that's about all I can say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a statement of his position from the Jerusalem Post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Brown expressed fierce solidarity with Israel in its struggle to survive, outraged rejection for &#8220;those who question Israel&#8217;s right to exist,&#8221; abhorrence at the Iranian president&#8217;s calls &#8220;for Israel to be wiped off the map&#8221; and a robust &#8220;determination to prevent an Iranian nuclear weapons program.&#8221; Indeed, he upped the ante on Iran, declaring that the British now stood <strong>&#8220;ready to lead in taking further sanctions and ask the whole international community to join us.&#8221;<br />
</strong><br />
If Iran did not suspend its nuclear program, he warned, it would face &#8220;growing isolation and the collective response not of one nation but of many nations.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the same time, this leader of a Britain that, he said, &#8220;shares an unbreakable partnership&#8221; with Israel, &#8220;based on shared values of liberty, democracy and justice,&#8221; set out familiar, if emphatically non-generous, positions on final-status issues. Insisting that &#8220;peace is within your grasp,&#8221; he spoke of an Israeli-Palestinian accommodation built, among other fundamentals, upon<strong> &#8220;a two-state solution based on 1967 borders,&#8221; with &#8220;Jerusalem the capital for both,&#8221; a &#8220;just and agreed settlement for refugees&#8221; and Israel &#8220;freezing and withdrawing from settlements.&#8221;</strong> </p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, I suppose he is a better friend then Bashar Assad, but that&#8217;s about all I can say.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gordon Brown sympathetic to dead Jews, less so to live ones by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/989#comment-6240</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/989#comment-6240</guid>
		<description>Brown also promised that he would not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons. He mentioned Ahmadinejad's 'wipe Israel off the map' remark and condemned it. 
He presents himself as pro- Israel, as one who is an open friend of Israel.
When one considers the BBC, the anti- Semitic tone of much of the British chattering class, one must understand that Brown's friendship or warmth to Israel is not something to be dismissed, and ridiculed. 
Surely he has the same misconception regarding what will move the Palestinians that almost every Western leader has had. 
But I would not spurn or scorn his friendship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brown also promised that he would not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons. He mentioned Ahmadinejad&#8217;s &#8216;wipe Israel off the map&#8217; remark and condemned it.<br />
He presents himself as pro- Israel, as one who is an open friend of Israel.<br />
When one considers the BBC, the anti- Semitic tone of much of the British chattering class, one must understand that Brown&#8217;s friendship or warmth to Israel is not something to be dismissed, and ridiculed.<br />
Surely he has the same misconception regarding what will move the Palestinians that almost every Western leader has had.<br />
But I would not spurn or scorn his friendship.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Palestinians: a class act by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/985#comment-6239</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/985#comment-6239</guid>
		<description>This is a major issue which we hear almost nothing about. 
The attention and sympathy given to the Palestinian Arabs by the world is inverse proportion to what they are worthy of in terms of the morality of their behavior. 
This is not just a 'propaganda point'. It is something our leaders should always have in mind. For hate- filled , violent, and blood- celebrating as they are their 'word' in any deal is worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a major issue which we hear almost nothing about.<br />
The attention and sympathy given to the Palestinian Arabs by the world is inverse proportion to what they are worthy of in terms of the morality of their behavior.<br />
This is not just a &#8216;propaganda point&#8217;. It is something our leaders should always have in mind. For hate- filled , violent, and blood- celebrating as they are their &#8216;word&#8217; in any deal is worthless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replace Olmert now by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/980#comment-6235</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/980#comment-6235</guid>
		<description>There is another compelling reason why Prime Minister Olmert should resign. The corruption. Hillel Halkin points out that Olmert never has known the distinction between a private citizen can do, and a public official can allow himself. Olmert has through his behavior in relation to personal finance disgraced Israel. 
Halkin by the way also explains why other political leaders are so silent. If one lives in glass houses. 
We need a new leadership, one dedicated to the public good first and above all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another compelling reason why Prime Minister Olmert should resign. The corruption. Hillel Halkin points out that Olmert never has known the distinction between a private citizen can do, and a public official can allow himself. Olmert has through his behavior in relation to personal finance disgraced Israel.<br />
Halkin by the way also explains why other political leaders are so silent. If one lives in glass houses.<br />
We need a new leadership, one dedicated to the public good first and above all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Psychotic with hatred by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/982#comment-6234</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/982#comment-6234</guid>
		<description>Where is the editorial comment of the most enlightened Western newspapers and journals in regard to the 'moral meaning' of a whole culture celebrating a child- murderer? 
How is it that the outrage over this is confined largely to Jewish and Israeli voices? Where is everybody decent in the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the editorial comment of the most enlightened Western newspapers and journals in regard to the &#8216;moral meaning&#8217; of a whole culture celebrating a child- murderer?<br />
How is it that the outrage over this is confined largely to Jewish and Israeli voices? Where is everybody decent in the world?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the British media are smoking by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/979#comment-6230</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/979#comment-6230</guid>
		<description>I can only confirm the strong case you make of British Anti- Semitic discrimination against Israel in their press. The BBC is the most important criminal here, but the Guardian, the independent, the Telegraph , the Spectator all do their part to blacken the name of Israel. 
British upper- class anti- Semitism is a long - time fact of life. And it is now reenforced by the Islamist element in British society. 
What is outrageous is how they directly ignore the evidence which is so strong in regard to Israel's desire for peace, and our adversaries desire only for our destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only confirm the strong case you make of British Anti- Semitic discrimination against Israel in their press. The BBC is the most important criminal here, but the Guardian, the independent, the Telegraph , the Spectator all do their part to blacken the name of Israel.<br />
British upper- class anti- Semitism is a long - time fact of life. And it is now reenforced by the Islamist element in British society.<br />
What is outrageous is how they directly ignore the evidence which is so strong in regard to Israel&#8217;s desire for peace, and our adversaries desire only for our destruction.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Human rights and the Palestinian Joan of Arc by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/978#comment-6229</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/978#comment-6229</guid>
		<description>What kind of people makes heroes of those who murder civilians, who take pride in killing women and children?
A people who has lost their sense of humanity, if that is, they ever had one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of people makes heroes of those who murder civilians, who take pride in killing women and children?<br />
A people who has lost their sense of humanity, if that is, they ever had one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media dishonesty does real, concrete damage by Shalom Freedman</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/976#comment-6223</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/976#comment-6223</guid>
		<description>The lesson of this is that Israel must better learn to prepare for the Media being used in support of the other side should there be another major outbreak of violence. We need a level of sophistication that can think more than one step ahead. We need too leaders determined to achieve our goals, and not be deterred by negative media reports which stir world opinion against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesson of this is that Israel must better learn to prepare for the Media being used in support of the other side should there be another major outbreak of violence. We need a level of sophistication that can think more than one step ahead. We need too leaders determined to achieve our goals, and not be deterred by negative media reports which stir world opinion against us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poll question is seriously flawed by ME</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/973#comment-6213</link>
		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/973#comment-6213</guid>
		<description>And, 93% do support Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, 93% do support Israel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poll question is seriously flawed by ME</title>
		<link>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/973#comment-6212</link>
		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fresnozionism.org/archives/973#comment-6212</guid>
		<description>I agree.  Americans, if polled would say they generally don't like to take sides, but if they had to, the remaining 71% would support Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Americans, if polled would say they generally don&#8217;t like to take sides, but if they had to, the remaining 71% would support Israel.</p>
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